Talk:Maemo Summit 2009/Submissions

Presentations under consideration
Please add comments you have about presentations under consideration here.

liqbase-playground
I would like to see this grouped with the other Fremantle Star projects into a keynote presentation. If we can get the majority of the other Star project authors together for this it would be a great talk. Feel free to submit a more liqbase focused talk if you have idea's for a longer session. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Propose Fremantle Stars plenary session, 10 to 15 mins each

Evangelizing Mer, and Tips on Promoting Your Own Project
Not sure this would stand up as a full session, suited more to a lightning talk? -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Unless the author comes up with a bigger plan for this presentation, I also vote to convert the presentation in a LT. -- Valério Valério 09:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I think an evangelisation presentation might be good. Lety's see what else comes along in that style before saying yes. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wait & see

How to speed up your Maemo application development
Yes from me although this is a pretty hard-core platform developer talk. ESbox and PluThon are important parts of tablet development and as a lightning session you could 'scratch the itch' of the attendee. Maybe a little more information about how you intend to do this as a full session? -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. Seems like an application developer presentation to me, rather than platform developer. Let's see what other proposals come in. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Wait and see

Go-to market opportunities for mobile application developers
I'm unsure about the relevance of this presentation to attendees. Dave Neary 14:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Having researched a bit more about Fring, I would like to see Baz present. --86.200.68.234 15:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The focus of the presentation seems to be mostly around other platforms than maemo, although some of the topics have some relevance for the attendees, I'm not sure if the presentation as a all have enough relevance for the audience. Valério Valério 10:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Remember that this is a Maemo Summit and not a Mobile Summit. I like the potential of the talk although it would have to be very heavily orientated around Maemo for this to be accepted. Its fine to compare Maemo with other competitors but it has to be a Maemo talk first and foremost and a 'state of the mobile ecosphere' second. -- baloo 22:07, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes

More info about the presentation:

"My goal in this presentation is to steer a discussion about the best way of the Maemo community to make applications as easily available as possible. I don’t have solutions but I can bring in our experiences in working on multiple platforms to demonstrate what works better.

Namely -
 * iPhone environment is by far the best environment for app developers. The system encourage users to try and use external apps and it is doing it with an intuitive 'store-front' and easy setup.
 * Nokia (OVI) and WM environment provides decent solutions assuming the end user is passionate in looking for an app. Their draw-back are - unfriendly store-front; too many steps in the download process and a lengthy setup process.
 * The Linux solution, repositories - is only for the geeks. It is too technical, hidden, and presented to those who understand the insides of the device.

My goal in the presentation is to demo what we are doing in each channel, our unique approach to ease the process in some environment (Symbian and WM), the different 'app-stores'. I hope that this will encourage the technical guys to set and build a better process in Maemo such that the non-geeks users can benefit from the applications provided."

Canola application and framework for rich GUI
I would prefer a more in-deep presentation around the framework behind canola than the app itself, since the intended audience will be application developers and some of the canola components have a big lack of documentation. -- Valério Valério 10:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's it. Since people from Maemo already know Canola, what I really hope is to bring more developers to Canola (Terra) framework, so we can have more Canola plugins or even other applications in the same line, built from scratch using Terra framework. --k-s 11:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

On the assumption that this is indeed a more developer orientated presentation about the Terra framework and not just Canola (obviously using Canola for an example of what can be done) I personally would be happy to see this at the Summit. -- baloo 22:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Since the focus of talk will be the canola framework instead of the app itself, I would like to see it at the summit. -- Valério Valério 09:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Funny enough, I would like to see a user-oriented talk for Canola. I don't mind some applications talking about frameworks and APIs, but we have 1/3rd of the conference about users, and we're expecting a user audience. Canola is one of those apps I don't know as well ass I'd like to. --Dave Neary 15:21, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe 2 sessions then, one user and one developer if the speaker (or speakers) are willing? -- baloo 15:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No - one or the other I think. Do you really think that the Canola application framework will be interesting to more people than "discover cool features of Canola 2" will be? I'm not so sure. --Dave Neary 15:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Going by the amount of GSOC projects using Canola and the potential of the framework for other applications it could warrant 2 presentations but for now lets keep it at 1. -- baloo 15:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In my opinion the framework behind canola is very interesting, and for the reasons that I pointed above, it would be interesting for a good group of dev's, I guess. -- Valério Valério 15:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I know it was accepted already, but my opinion is that dev is better. Discovering feature from user POV is simpler, we have couple of videos on internet and giving it a try for a day should be enough. But from developer POV it's very large and complex but powerful code. We have infrastructure to make thread loading, DB loading on demand and a powerful plugin system. Very few developers out there know about, we're trying to get the first external developer using GSoC and they're liking it and producing good code, but attracting more developer is important. Actually I'd like to see other applications using the infrastructure, not just Canola/Carman, but Blue Maemo and even others. --k-s 18:32, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes to a presentation on the application framework

Maemo Co-Creation Working Session
I like the idea of this a lot but the line "lead users + Maemo product managers, designers and marketeers" does worry me a little. I know this may require the signing of NDA's e.t.c. for the session but it would be more transparent if you could outline the requirements for attendance. We are catering for a lot of Maemo enthusiasts so a session looking at the idea's behind the next tablet is going to be way over-subscribed. I think you need to set out up front the people you are allowing to this session and the people who cannot attend to try to minimize the feeling of 'eliteness'. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

My interpretation is that the talk is open for everybody ("Maemo co-creation 2009 will now open up for the Maemo community"), if I understood well this sessions will present the result of the *closed* co-creation sessions in order to craft more ideas from the community. So is a yes from me. -- Valério Valério 09:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If that is the case then I'm all for the session. -- baloo 15:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

100% in favouur of giving these sessions the space requested. Should be interesting insight and an opportunity for the community to discover the Nokia design process. --Dave Neary 15:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes

Maemomm: Maemo with C++ and a Gtkmm flavour
Big yes from me but where to put the talk? I think more with platform developers than application ones. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Agree, I also think that plataform developers will be more suitable for this presentation. -- Valério Valério 09:25, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Moving to platform developer track. --Dave Neary 15:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes for platform developers

Hildon toolkit for Fremantle
Big yes from me. This will be a Fremantle heavy summit and these are the kind of talks everyone is there to see. I'm tempted to say that this is an Application Developers talk but I think this is best suited as a Platform Developer one. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes from me, and Platform Developers track IMO. -- Valério Valério 09:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes for accepting it, but it's an application developer presentation. It's not about changing Hildon, it's about using it. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes for app developer track

Modest, email client for Fremantle
Another big yes for me. Lets hope that the talk also focuses on a lot of the user complaints that Modest has accumulated recently. I'd like to not only see what we have in store for Fremantle but what improvements there are going to be for the N8x0 users. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes from me. If it will be presented in the users track, the authors should have a bit more attention to the presentation topics, in order to avoid technical topics, that aren't suitable for that audience. -- Valério Valério 09:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Moving to user track. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes

Adapting GNOME applications to Maemo Fremantle
Yes. Please make this relevant for the non-Fremantle crowd though. Not wanting to hijack your presentation but there are a lot people out there with little to no knowledge of porting applications to the restrained environment that the tablet has to offer but a lot of people who will still be developing/porting for the 770/N8x0 for a long time to come. --~ baloo

Yes. I think hildonizing a app is very similar in Diablo and Fremantle, of course the set of available widgets isn't the same, but the core tips will be aborted for sure. -- Valério Valério 09:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Porting an app to Fremantle is in my opinion much different than porting it to Diablo since not only the widgets changed but also the philosophy of how an application should use them. On Fremantle, redesigning the interface becomes almost mandatory in order to provide the user a truly finger-friendly interface. See the example of EOG for Maemo VS EOG for GNOME for example. So, the focus of my talk would be in the adaptation of desktop applications to become finger-friendly according to the Fremantle style. --jrocha 10:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Idea for author: The subject goes well with presenting the main design principled in the Hildon HIG, maybe? Definite yes from me. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes

Mer: A year after
For me this is more a lightning talk. I'd like to see a more in-dept proposal if this is to be a longer session. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it is suitable for a presentation, the project deserves a presentation, where a lot of topics can be raised, namely the current state of Mer, future planes, difficulties faced during the development, etc. -- Valério Valério 09:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Full presentation definitely. Yes from me. --Dave Neary 15:36, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: Yes

Attracting the Masses
Presentation declined. We felt that the content wasn't compelling enough for the presentation, and there will be considerable duplication with presentations during the Nokia day, which will concentrate on cracking the mass market, and during the Fremantle Stars presentations we expect to have. Please add any comments you might have below. Dave Neary 16:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Daniel Gentleman, thoughtfix at gmail dot com or thoughtfix anywhere.
 * Intended audience: Developers - but other parties may be interested
 * Talk type: Presentation (req: projector with VGA or DVI input for a Keynote presentation)
 * Abstract/description
 * Tablets have hundreds of applications now - but who are they for? If the Internet Tablets are intended to attract a more mainstream mobile market, the maemo community needs to get in touch with the needs of the target market.
 * The first part of this presentation will give an overview of the most popular applications on competing platforms. This information will be collected through app store sales/download counts, direct communication with a sampling of mobile consumers, and communication with some other high-profile mobile technology journalists. This will include actual applications, connectivity options, peripherals, interface (touch/keyboard/icon/etc) preferences, and related consumer desires.
 * The second part of this presentation will give an overview of the state of the existing maemo platform including commercial partners, independent contributors, and ports of more popular Linux software.
 * The conclusion will analyze mobile consumer desires compared to maemo offerings and, hopefully, give developers ideas on what they can write to make the platform more appealing.


 * Author bio
 * The seeds of TabletBlog started in 2005 when some geek named Daniel Gentleman picked up the original Nokia 770 and started a blog. Since then, I've published thousands of bits of material reaching millions of visitors and video views. So far, I've been present for the Nokia N800 launch in CES 2007, the N810 launch at the Web2Summit, BossaConference 2008 in Recife, Brazil, and the first Maemo Summit.

Challenges of Multimedia within a Freely Distributable Tablet Framework
Seems a little too abstract for a Maemo Summit as I think these issues effect a much wider audience. A good talk but again, in the interests of keeping this a very Maemo Summit focused event, I'm saying no unless a more compelling argument is there. -- baloo 22:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Same opinion here, in the current state I say no. -- Valério Valério 09:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Same here. No. There are many more compelling Mer presentations possible. --Dave Neary 15:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreement: No


 * Author: Matthew Craig, mtc in #Mer
 * Intended audience: Users and Platform engineers
 * Talk type: Presentation
 * Abstract/description
 * Multimedia technology has the very real potential of framing the next generation of the web, and it is becoming a primary vehicle for communication worldwide. The Mer Project faces unique challenges in handling this important technology, as it based on embedded architectures and strives to be freely distributable.  For example, license restrictions of MPEG technologies prevent the free distribution of the popular "MP3" audio playback.  With the current and rapid adoption of HTML-5 Video specifications, these difficult challenges are ones that must be addressed immediately.  This talk will review the obstacles, and the practical solutions, to using multimedia within the Mer Project.


 * Author bio
 * See Evangelizing Mer below.