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== Questions & Answers about Harmattan ==
== Questions & Answers about Harmattan ==
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=== I am confused. What is Harmattan and what is MeeGo? What is the difference between both? Do they share common features? ===
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=== I am confused. What is Harmattan and what is MeeGo ? What is the difference between both ? Do they share common features ? ===
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So what’s with (Harmattan)? (Harmattan) will be MeeGo compatible.....consider (Harmattan) already a MeeGo instance.
So what’s with (Harmattan)? (Harmattan) will be MeeGo compatible.....consider (Harmattan) already a MeeGo instance.
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|2=[https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16130344&postID=78857428363981643&pli=1 Ari Jaaksi (Nokia)]
 
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Source : [https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16130344&postID=78857428363981643&pli=1 Ari Jaaksi] (Nokia)
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Harmattan is the name of the software program that comes after Fremantle / Maemo 5. In the Maemo Summit we already announced it as "Maemo 6" in order to bring a clear signal about the major update, change of toolkit, etc.
Harmattan is the name of the software program that comes after Fremantle / Maemo 5. In the Maemo Summit we already announced it as "Maemo 6" in order to bring a clear signal about the major update, change of toolkit, etc.
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What does this mean exactly for Harmattan/MeeGo? It means different things for different people:
What does this mean exactly for Harmattan/MeeGo? It means different things for different people:
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* For end users nothing really changes, apart from a name most of them were not aware of anyway.
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- For end users nothing really changes, apart from a name most of them were not aware of anyway.
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* For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and by the way same for Symbian. Harmattan might have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi [[:wikipedia:API|APIs]]), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDKs]] to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.
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* For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for application developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".
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- For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and by the way same for Symbian. Harmattan might have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi [[:wikipedia:API|APIs]]), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDKs]] to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.
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- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for application developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".
This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" brand while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.  
This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" brand while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.  
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=529073&postcount=14 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
 
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=529073&postcount=14 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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Harmattan and MeeGo come with a whole Qt based application and [[:wikipedia:User_interaction|UI]] framework and a Qt style API. Maemo 5 is a different story, with a GTK+ based applications and UI framework and GNOME style API.
Harmattan and MeeGo come with a whole Qt based application and [[:wikipedia:User_interaction|UI]] framework and a Qt style API. Maemo 5 is a different story, with a GTK+ based applications and UI framework and GNOME style API.
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PS: about the packaging... we are talking here about API compatibility.
PS: about the packaging... we are talking here about API compatibility.
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=534188&postcount=107 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
 
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=534188&postcount=107 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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# There is Nokia Maemo 5 / Fremantle now. The next release would have been Nokia Maemo 6 / Harmattan. Now, it is called Meego / Harmattan instead, but it's still the same Harmattan that it was going to be. This would be way clearer if they didn't rebrand it as MeeGo yet, but they wanted to get the marketing behind that brand already. You can think of Harmattan as half MeeGo. The next release after Harmattan will be Nokia's first full MeeGo.
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# You need to understand the layers, which together form an operating system. It may be difficult if you come from Windows/OS X world because they both only have one user interface. UI and applications, however are only the top of the OS pyramid. Underneath them there are a lot of stuff that actually make it all tick. That's what Meego is about, providing a common base for user interfaces and applications to be built on. When you think of Meego in general, think of everything you as an end user don't see.
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1. There is Nokia Maemo 5 / Fremantle now. The next release would have been Nokia Maemo 6 / Harmattan. Now, it is called Meego / Harmattan instead, but it's still the same Harmattan that it was going to be. This would be way clearer if they didn't rebrand it as MeeGo yet, but they wanted to get the marketing behind that brand already. You can think of Harmattan as half MeeGo. The next release after Harmattan will be Nokia's first full MeeGo.
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# What you actually see, the UI, applications, services etc. can and will vary depending on who made the Meego device. LG's UI may look totally different from Nokia UI. You'll only see Ovi applications and services on Nokia devices. These manufacturer specific applications on top of Meego won't necessarily be open source either. But the base on which they are built on is the same.
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2. You need to understand the layers, which together form an operating system. It may be difficult if you come from Windows/OS X world because they both only have one user interface. UI and applications, however are only the top of the OS pyramid. Underneath them there are a lot of stuff that actually make it all tick. That's what Meego is about, providing a common base for user interfaces and applications to be built on. When you think of Meego in general, think of everything you as an end user don't see.
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3. What you actually see, the UI, applications, services etc. can and will vary depending on who made the Meego device. LG's UI may look totally different from Nokia UI. You'll only see Ovi applications and services on Nokia devices. These manufacturer specific applications on top of Meego won't necessarily be open source either. But the base on which they are built on is the same.
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Source '''(NON OFFICIAL)''' : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=555158&postcount=33 jas]
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(Harmattan) will be compatible with MeeGo.. but it is not  MeeGo.
(Harmattan) will be compatible with MeeGo.. but it is not  MeeGo.
(Harmattan) will still use Deb.. MeeGo uses RPM.  
(Harmattan) will still use Deb.. MeeGo uses RPM.  
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|2='''(UNOFFICIAL)''' [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=541972&postcount=249 fatalsaint]
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Source '''(NON OFFICIAL)''' : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=541972&postcount=249 fatalsaint]
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=== Harmattan is still using deb, will it mean it is less compatible with other MeeGo instances ? ===
=== Harmattan is still using deb, will it mean it is less compatible with other MeeGo instances ? ===
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I bet the MeeGo build infrastructure ([[:wikipedia:OpenSUSE_Build_Service|OBS]]) will minimize the rpm/deb hassle for developers. I expect the average user not to even bother about this.
I bet the MeeGo build infrastructure ([[:wikipedia:OpenSUSE_Build_Service|OBS]]) will minimize the rpm/deb hassle for developers. I expect the average user not to even bother about this.
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=553750&postcount=6 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
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|3=Will MeeGo finally end the Rapid Obsolescence Syndrome (ROS)
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=553750&postcount=6 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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=== When will you release any news on Harmattan ? ===
=== When will you release any news on Harmattan ? ===
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... I said in the oldest 'Harmattan in the N900' thread that there were new things in the pipeline and that before a Harmattan alpha release (promised for 1Q2010, working on it) it was really premature to discuss or announce anything.
... I said in the oldest 'Harmattan in the N900' thread that there were new things in the pipeline and that before a Harmattan alpha release (promised for 1Q2010, working on it) it was really premature to discuss or announce anything.
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Harmattan/MeeGo are in pre-alpha state, we haven't even put together an early [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDK]] for the most adventurous developers, we haven't given any hardware details about the next device...
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Harmattan/MeeGo are in pre-alpha state, we haven't even put together an early [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDK SDK] for the most adventurous developers, we haven't given any hardware details about the next device...
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=551987&postcount=127 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=551987&postcount=127 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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I cannot tell you when do we ship the next device. I cannot tell you how much it costs. I cannot tell the exact features because we are still working on them. I cannot tell you what is the delta between Maemo5 and (Harmattan)/MeeGo 1.0 because it is not fully clear yet. And we tell you about the new products when we are ready to tell. Business decisions. I cannot tell you how much of the (Harmattan) characteristics will run on old devices when the new devices finally ship. But go and follow Harmattan plans at maemo.org. See also the new [[:wikipedia:User_interface|UI]] framework forming up.
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|2=[https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16130344&postID=78857428363981643&pli=1 Ari Jaaksi (Nokia)]
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I cannot tell you when do we ship the next device. I cannot tell you how much it costs. I cannot tell the exact features because we are still working on them. I cannot tell you what is the delta between Maemo5 and (Harmattan)/MeeGo 1.0 because it is not fully clear yet. And we tell you about the new products when we are ready to tell. Business decisions. I cannot tell you how much of the (Harmattan) characteristics will run on old devices when the new devices finally ship. But go and follow Harmattan plans at maemo.org. See also the new [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface UI] framework forming up.
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Source : [https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16130344&postID=78857428363981643&pli=1 Ari Jaaksi] (Nokia)
=== Is Harmattan a transitional release toward pure MeeGo ? ===
=== Is Harmattan a transitional release toward pure MeeGo ? ===
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''From'' [http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/2010/03/nokia-spotlight-interview-with-peter_10.html ''mobiletablets.blogspot.com''] :
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Harmattan will be the base for Nokia’s MeeGo-based devices in 2010. From an app developer’s point of view, it will be fully compatible with other MeeGo-based devices. There might be differences under the hood concerning some middleware components and, therefore, it has been referred to as transitional release, but that’s only relevant for those few that participate in the low level platform development. Qt Creator with the necessary cross-compilation toolkits will make these differences invisible to the bulk of application developers.
Harmattan will be the base for Nokia’s MeeGo-based devices in 2010. From an app developer’s point of view, it will be fully compatible with other MeeGo-based devices. There might be differences under the hood concerning some middleware components and, therefore, it has been referred to as transitional release, but that’s only relevant for those few that participate in the low level platform development. Qt Creator with the necessary cross-compilation toolkits will make these differences invisible to the bulk of application developers.
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|2=[http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/2010/03/nokia-spotlight-interview-with-peter.html Peter Schneider (Nokia)]
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Source : [http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/2010/03/nokia-spotlight-interview-with-peter.html Peter Schneider] (Nokia)
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=== Will Nokia release their official Meego UX, applications like Ovi Maps, Mail for Exchange, Nokia Messaging etc to the community-supported Meego for N900? ===
=== Will Nokia release their official Meego UX, applications like Ovi Maps, Mail for Exchange, Nokia Messaging etc to the community-supported Meego for N900? ===
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There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in ([http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53551 this thread]). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.  
There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in ([http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53551 this thread]). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.  
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=677722&postcount=70 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=677722&postcount=70 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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