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This wiki page serves as a discussion page where we will try to find a better way to categorize packages in the repositories.  
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This wiki page serves as a discussion page for improving the categorization system used for Maemo packages. Improvements here will be pushed to the [http://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf Maemo Packaging Policy] through [[Task:Packaging policy proposed changes]].
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This proposal is coordinated by [[User:Xfade|Niels Breet]] and is part of the [[Extras_repository_process_definition|Extras repository process definition]].
This proposal is coordinated by [[User:Xfade|Niels Breet]] and is part of the [[Extras_repository_process_definition|Extras repository process definition]].
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== Problem ==
== Problem ==
People feel the need to create new categories, because the current list is too limited.
People feel the need to create new categories, because the current list is too limited.
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* There is beauty in simplicity. Adding more categories would never solve the problem for some people. --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Another problem is that some categories aren't very descriptive. What applications go in to tools, support or accessories?
Another problem is that some categories aren't very descriptive. What applications go in to tools, support or accessories?
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* This may be the better method, although "descriptive" is still subjective. --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
== Maemo Packaging Policy ==
== Maemo Packaging Policy ==
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* tools
* tools
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== New list for Diablo ==
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== Proposed list for Diablo ==
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This is the [http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2008-October/035437.html final] list for  Diablo:
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This is the [http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2008-October/035437.html proposed] final list for  Diablo:
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! Key
! Key
! Example English i18n
! Example English i18n
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If the package's section starts "user/", but is not any of the above, the ''Application Manager'' forces them into an "Other" section.
If the package's section starts "user/", but is not any of the above, the ''Application Manager'' forces them into an "Other" section.
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* Any more thought/discussion on "office" being changed to "productivity"? Or, has this been decided? --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 13:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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** It's an i18n question, and so not ''really'' important at the moment (i.e. deciding if the categories are sufficient for all use cases). However, IMHO, "Productivity" is a ''more'' flawed label than ''Office'' as the tablet is a tool. All tools should increase productivity at doing '''something'''. People buy physical calendars from office supply firms, Ubuntu (and freedesktop.org) label it "Office" and it encompasses Evolution's calendar; so it works for me. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 13:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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*** Makes sense. Good argument that I can stand by. ;) --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 14:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
== Future additions ==
== Future additions ==
The current proposed list is only for Diablo, future additions and changes will be considered for Fremantle.
The current proposed list is only for Diablo, future additions and changes will be considered for Fremantle.
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It seems H-A-M supports (will support?) the section "user/hidden" in the future ([http://maemo.gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline/commit/deeb9558129e22f9d1ca49ef9b6565a173603fcd commit log]). This section will not be shown in the "Download" view, but will be shown in the "Update" and "Uninstall" views.
 
=== Debtags ===
=== Debtags ===
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As stated on the [http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faceted.html debtags website]:
As stated on the [http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faceted.html debtags website]:
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{{quotation|Drawing a bit freely from the literature of Faceted Classification, a facet is a group of tags which describe the same quality of a package. Package Tags are organized in Facets, that represent different points of view from which to look at the package archive. For example, you could have a "Usage" facet with tags about what a program is intended to be used for, or you could have a "Media" facet with tags about what kind of information a program is able to process, a "Technology" facet about the technology a package uses, and so on. With this approach, every tag is situated in a specific context, and has a clear meaning. Also, tags from different facets shed light on packages from different points of view, giving "depth" to its categorization. Take something tagged with "Use::Chatting", "Technology::IRC", "Role::Server": it has a remarkable level of detail, and tells almost everything we need to know about what the package does.
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''Drawing a bit freely from the literature of Faceted Classification, a facet is a group of tags which describe the same quality of a package. Package Tags are organized in Facets, that represent different points of view from which to look at the package archive. For example, you could have a "Usage" facet with tags about what a program is intended to be used for, or you could have a "Media" facet with tags about what kind of information a program is able to process, a "Technology" facet about the technology a package uses, and so on. With this approach, every tag is situated in a specific context, and has a clear meaning. Also, tags from different facets shed light on packages from different points of view, giving "depth" to its categorization. Take something tagged with "Use::Chatting", "Technology::IRC", "Role::Server": it has a remarkable level of detail, and tells almost everything we need to know about what the package does.''
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I'm not sure if this will help us here. We would need to specify a lot of tags for packages. Question is: how are we going to display this in the application manager or website without being confusing --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 12:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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We should use Debtags to encode the information we need for Maemo (by defining tags like Maemo::Category), but we probably shouldn't try to expose all the existing Debtags in the UI.  This is a slight abuse of Debtags, but better than the current abuse of Section, I think.  If the abuse is too great, we can have our own fields in debian/control: Maemo-Category: --[[User:mvo|mvo]]
=== Application-specific subcategories ===
=== Application-specific subcategories ===
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Within each of the top-level categories, projects may want to group a number of packages together. For this, sub-sections can be used. For example, Canola may have:
Within each of the top-level categories, projects may want to group a number of packages together. For this, sub-sections can be used. For example, Canola may have:
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#* plugins
#* plugins
#* translations
#* translations
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| user/desktop
 
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| Desktop
 
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| Desktop
 
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| Escritorio
 
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| Bureaublad
 
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| Área de Trabalho
 
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| Skrivebord
 
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| Desktop
 
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| Bureau
 
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| Área de Trabalho
 
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| Skrivbord
 
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| Bureau
 
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| Escritorio
 
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| Desktop
 
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| user/development
 
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| Programming
 
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| Programming
 
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| Programación
 
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| Ontwikkeling
 
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| Desenvolvimento
 
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| Programming
 
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| Ohjelmointi
 
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| Programmazione
 
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| Programmation
 
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| Programmering
 
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| Desenvolvimento
 
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| Programmering
 
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| Programmation
 
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| Programación
 
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| Программирование
 
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| Entwicklung
 
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| user/education
 
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| Education
 
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| Education
 
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| Educación
 
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| Educatief
 
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| Educação
 
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| Undervisning
 
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| Opiskelu
 
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| Educazione
 
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| Éducation
 
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| Undervisning
 
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| Educação
 
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| Utbildning
 
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| Éducation
 
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| Educación
 
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| Образование
 
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| Bildung
 
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| user/games
 
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| Games
 
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| Games
 
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| Juegos
 
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| Spelletjes
 
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| Jogos
 
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| Spill
 
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| Pelit
 
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| Giochi
 
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| Jeux
 
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| Spil
 
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| Jogos
 
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| Spel
 
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| Jeux
 
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| Juegos
 
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| Игры
 
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| Spiele
 
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| user/graphics
 
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| Graphics
 
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| Graphics
 
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| Gráficos
 
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| Grafisch
 
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| Gráficos
 
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| Grafikk
 
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| Grafiikka
 
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| Grafica
 
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| Graphismes
 
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| Grafik
 
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| Gráficos
 
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| Grafik
 
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| Graphismes
 
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| Графика
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimídia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimédia
 
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| Multimedier
 
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| Multimédia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Multimédia
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| Мультимедиа
 
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| Multimedia
 
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| user/navigation
 
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| Location & Navigation
 
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| Location & Navigation
 
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| Localización y Navegación
 
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| Locatie en Navigatie
 
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| Posicionamento e Navegação
 
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| Paikannus ja navigointi
 
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| Posizione e Navigazione
 
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| Localisation et Navigation
 
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| Position og Navigation
 
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| Posicionamento e Navegação
 
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| Position och Navigation
 
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| Localisation et Navigation
 
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| Позиционирование и навигация
 
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| Position & Navigation
 
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| user/network
 
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| Internet & Networking
 
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| Internet & Networking
 
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| Internet y Redes
 
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| Internet en Netwerk
 
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| Internet og Nettverk
 
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| Internet et Réseaux
 
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| Internet og netværk
 
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| Интернет и сети
 
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| user/office
 
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| Office
 
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| Office
 
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| Oficina
 
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| Kantoor
 
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| Escritório
 
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| Kontor
 
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| Toimisto
 
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| Ufficio
 
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| Bureautique
 
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| Kontor
 
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| Escritório
 
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| Kontor
 
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| Bureautique
 
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| Oficina
 
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| Офис
 
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| Büro
 
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| user/science
 
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| Science
 
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| Science
 
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| Ciencia
 
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| Wetenschap
 
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| Ciência
 
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| Vitenskap
 
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| Tiede
 
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| Scienza
 
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| Science
 
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| Ciência
 
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| Science
 
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| Ciencia
 
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| Наука
 
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| user/system
 
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| System
 
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| System
 
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| Sistema
 
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| Systeem
 
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| System
 
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| Système
 
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| user/utilities
 
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| Utilities
 
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| Utilities
 
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| Utilitarios
 
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| Utilitários
 
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| Verktoy
 
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| Utilità
 
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| Utilitaires
 
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| Utilitaires
 
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| Utilidades
 
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== Reference ==
== Reference ==
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