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| | ::Hm, I think terms like maemo, Hildon and Internet Tablet OS mix together for a newbie.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | | ::Hm, I think terms like maemo, Hildon and Internet Tablet OS mix together for a newbie.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC) |
| | :::This is one of the reasons behind the proposal at [[Task:Maemo_brand#Definitions]].--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 21:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | | :::This is one of the reasons behind the proposal at [[Task:Maemo_brand#Definitions]].--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 21:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC) |
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| - | == Discussion ==
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| - | === What is maemo ===
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| - | Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].
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| - | === Describing the maemo community ===
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| - | Many people see the maemo community as a group of people having Nokia as a counterpart. A more accurate picture would:
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| - | * Have Nokia as a community player, describing the activities that are done at a community level.
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| - | * Show the relationships with related upstream projects: where the collaboration is happening beyond just using the free software provided.
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| - | * Add the many organizations involved in maemo development or research, from companies to universities.
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| - | Also, what about
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| - | * Go a bit deeper inside the "group of people" and identifying core contributors: more work on karma and user profiles would be needed.
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| - | Now the most visible are the one ''shouting louder'' and more often. It would be useful though to identify key contributors in the many community areas: application development, platform hacking, documentation, support, bug reporting, news, marketing...
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| - | --[[User:qgil|qgil]] 05:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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| - | --''From a practical point-of-view, isn't maemo pretty much completely dependent on Nokia right now? Are there any viable non-Nokia maemo platforms out there? How much core development is not directed by the Nokia mothership? Claiming independence is counterproductive if it isn't tied to reality. - mee 04:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)''
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| - | ====Categorise the Community - thoughts====
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| - | The section above describes Maemo's place in the greater community.
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| - | However, who is maemo serving? (this may be a start on going a bit deeper)
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| - | Tech Level 1:
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| - | * Users : Windows/Mac desktop users who bought an N800 and want new wallpaper, a neat clock etc.
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| - | Tech Level 2:
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| - | * Power Users : Install more apps, alternative launchers, alpha/beta sw, up to new distros (eg Debian). More complex networking, ssh, scripting, python, documentation...
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| - | Tech Level 3:
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| - | * App Developers : Porting/writing gui apps and daemons; may want api info. Need to get to know the various environments.
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| - | * WM Developers : Starting to hack on gtk or QT4, the X server etc etc
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| - | * Kernel Developers : Fixing kernel bugs, tweaks, backporting, hardware support.
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| - | Each of these user types needs information : even an experienced kernel hacker will want to know the current best practice to setup the dev environment (SB1 or 2?)
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| - | More importantly pages should be written with an awareness of the target tech level.
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| - | Whilst thinking about the levels of user involvement I thought that we could help users self-categorise using some old Doom terms: "Easy", "Bring it on", "Hurt me".
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| - | Saves newbies complaining when they start down a path labelled 'Hurt me'...
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| - | [[User:lbt|lbt]] 10:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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| - | === Building a strong brand ===
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| - | Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].
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Asking to define maemo? I do not even really know what maemo was (or still is???). Start with a real newbie section after you have the definition ready.--kozuch82 13:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
