Talk:Maemo.org logo contest submissions

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== New Submissions ==
== New Submissions ==
Moved to the main page since there was nothing apparently wrong with these entries.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 14:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Moved to the main page since there was nothing apparently wrong with these entries.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 14:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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== Proposals with gradients or textures ==
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There's a number of proposals currently using gradients or colors. This seems non-compliant, and justification for removal to the talk page. However, it's complicated slightly because some deliberately use subtle gradients as a (stated) optional part of the design, which can be reduced to flat colors with no problem. I'm not sure if such dual-mode logos are permitted, and I didn't want to start dragging all the straightforward cases (where the gradient/texture was an essential design element) without being able to finish.
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The gradient-optional images are ''somewhat'' similar to the favicon configurations popping up; while the use of the logo in a favicon size is mentioned in the rules, submitting it as a favicon is not; while no mention of a gradient-friendly form is mentioned in the rules, it shares the relationship as an alternate version of the design.
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One solution that presents itself is to remove all images containing gradients, and all favicons, as primary submissions, and establish a template for one submission with a primary image (~500px as per rules), and a (any?) number of alternate versions as one design. Favicons and other rearrangements of the same design for different medium constraints would be alternate versions, but different color schemes, faces, etc. would be separate submissions.
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The main problem with that is that the [[Talk:Maemo.org_logo_contest#Submitting_entries | rules for submission process]], while not flagged as [[Talk:Maemo.org_logo_contest#Rules_Discussion | "discussion closed"]], are not [[Talk:Maemo.org_logo_contest#Selection_process| "open for discussion"]] either; I'm not at all sure this level of change is acceptable at this point.
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Any ideas? [[User:benson|benson]] 03:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Proposals with "Maemo"

Even if it's clear in the instructions that the logo needs to have the text "maemo.org" and only that, there are many proposals on "Maemo". What should we do with them? Take them out of the submissions page? It would be counterproductive that other designers see the proposals and think that despite the rule it is ok to send more "Maemo" proposals.--qgil 20:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

X-Fade and I were discussing this on #maemo earlier. We could:
  • Drop the non-compliant submissions onto a separate page.
  • Mark them as non-compliant with a template with lots of red borders and text.
  • Remove them outright and notify the submitter that the submission is non-compliant.
Not sure what the best solution is, but we do need to do something about it soon. —GeneralAntilles 20:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
What about putting a disclaimer on the top i.e. Submissions not following the contest rules will be removed from this page and removing them? The logos themselves are still uploaded and etc, so no big harm. A "Maemo" logo will not win the contest in any way, so it's not like the author is losing something in practical terms. They better know asap that their entry hasn't been accepted.--qgil 03:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The sooner we move them away, the more time they have to create a new, compliant logo. --xfade 07:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Done.--qgil 19:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposals with Tux penguin

Even if the Tux penguin is an image with a permissive license, I think we should discard those entries using it. The license still claims some kind of (very licit!) aknowledgement to the creator. The meaning is centered in the Linux Kernel. Right, Maemo uses this kernel and the maemo.org community has some kernel hackers. But that's it, a selected logo with Tux inside would be totally misleading. --qgil 19:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Submissions discarded

Because of having "Maemo" instead of "maemo.org", having potential trademark issues or using existing logos (i.e. Tux penguin).

dzahariev

fredyrivera

jobelium

asgari

GarethLWalt

Discounted #1b as it's too similar to Palm, Inc's logo IMHO --Jaffa 00:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
I would suggest a review of this image as well - if my logo was too similar to the old Palm logo --garethlwalt 14:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
You know what? You're right... Didn't even think about it. I'll move it to below. --timsamoff 12:11, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

jussi

thiercito

timsamoff

Additional Design ideas:

Discarded -- as discussed above. --timsamoff 12:18, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

femorandeira

New Submissions

Moved to the main page since there was nothing apparently wrong with these entries.--qgil 14:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposals with gradients or textures

There's a number of proposals currently using gradients or colors. This seems non-compliant, and justification for removal to the talk page. However, it's complicated slightly because some deliberately use subtle gradients as a (stated) optional part of the design, which can be reduced to flat colors with no problem. I'm not sure if such dual-mode logos are permitted, and I didn't want to start dragging all the straightforward cases (where the gradient/texture was an essential design element) without being able to finish.

The gradient-optional images are somewhat similar to the favicon configurations popping up; while the use of the logo in a favicon size is mentioned in the rules, submitting it as a favicon is not; while no mention of a gradient-friendly form is mentioned in the rules, it shares the relationship as an alternate version of the design.

One solution that presents itself is to remove all images containing gradients, and all favicons, as primary submissions, and establish a template for one submission with a primary image (~500px as per rules), and a (any?) number of alternate versions as one design. Favicons and other rearrangements of the same design for different medium constraints would be alternate versions, but different color schemes, faces, etc. would be separate submissions.

The main problem with that is that the rules for submission process, while not flagged as "discussion closed", are not "open for discussion" either; I'm not at all sure this level of change is acceptable at this point.

Any ideas? benson 03:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)