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Being specific and objective, showing statistics and trends, helps a lot convincing not one or two developers but whole teams and management structures.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 12:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | Being specific and objective, showing statistics and trends, helps a lot convincing not one or two developers but whole teams and management structures.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 12:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Improvements in the weekly reports == | == Improvements in the weekly reports == | ||
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::::Ok, ok, don't take the package level literally always. I agree they make less sense at the application level, where most end users will probably land. My main concern is not the package level but the fact that bugzilla products reflect better platform structure and (as a happy coincidence) Maemo SW team structure. For instance, now "Applications" list in fact "Rest of applications", since Browser or Media Player are elsewhere. At the same time, "Multimedia" is handling both application and platorm components. The Maemo SW team has a clear divide between applications and platform. Users probably will be happier too if they would have an easy way to access the whole application level without having to mess with more obscure platform components. By doing this we can go to deeper levels in the platform since now there is a single component for e.g. "Multimedia Framework" when actually it would be good to know whether a bug is in GStreamer, PulseAudio or some Nokia closed component (for instance, upstream developers could track better what is going on there). No need to go down to the full list of GStreamer related packages, agreed. Let me start drafting a structure... Don't look at the components so much, I have concentrated on the products in this first round. --[[User:qgil|qgil]] 06:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC) | ::::Ok, ok, don't take the package level literally always. I agree they make less sense at the application level, where most end users will probably land. My main concern is not the package level but the fact that bugzilla products reflect better platform structure and (as a happy coincidence) Maemo SW team structure. For instance, now "Applications" list in fact "Rest of applications", since Browser or Media Player are elsewhere. At the same time, "Multimedia" is handling both application and platorm components. The Maemo SW team has a clear divide between applications and platform. Users probably will be happier too if they would have an easy way to access the whole application level without having to mess with more obscure platform components. By doing this we can go to deeper levels in the platform since now there is a single component for e.g. "Multimedia Framework" when actually it would be good to know whether a bug is in GStreamer, PulseAudio or some Nokia closed component (for instance, upstream developers could track better what is going on there). No need to go down to the full list of GStreamer related packages, agreed. Let me start drafting a structure... Don't look at the components so much, I have concentrated on the products in this first round. --[[User:qgil|qgil]] 06:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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The 3 levels respond to Classification, Product and Component. What is today "Maemo Software" would be split in Official Applications and Official Platform. | The 3 levels respond to Classification, Product and Component. What is today "Maemo Software" would be split in Official Applications and Official Platform. | ||
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** Browser | ** Browser | ||
*** Bookmarks | *** Bookmarks | ||
- | ** Chat & Internet Call ''(was: Communication | + | ** Chat & Internet Call ''(was: Communication/IM/Chat and SIP etc - I'd prefer to have Chat and Internet Call in the same category, otherwise I'm running into problems here e.g. with Presence bugs - it's too tied.'' - '''TODO''': rtcomm? what's the status? Never understood that...) |
*** Chat | *** Chat | ||
*** General ''(was: Communication/General (9 bugs))'' | *** General ''(was: Communication/General (9 bugs))'' | ||
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*** XMPP ''(was: Communication/XMPP)'' | *** XMPP ''(was: Communication/XMPP)'' | ||
** Contacts ''(was: Communication/Contacts)'' | ** Contacts ''(was: Communication/Contacts)'' | ||
- | ** E-mail ''(was: Communication/Email)'' | + | ** E-mail ''(was: Communication/Email)'' |
** Games | ** Games | ||
*** Blocks | *** Blocks | ||
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*** Internet search | *** Internet search | ||
*** RSS feed reader | *** RSS feed reader | ||
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** Images & Camera ''(fits better to also have Cam bugs somewhere)'' | ** Images & Camera ''(fits better to also have Cam bugs somewhere)'' | ||
*** Camera ''(was: Multimedia/Camera)'' | *** Camera ''(was: Multimedia/Camera)'' | ||
- | *** Image viewer ''( | + | *** Image viewer |
- | + | ** Map ''(see bug 2566)'' | |
** Media Player ''(was: Multimedia/Media Player)'' | ** Media Player ''(was: Multimedia/Media Player)'' | ||
** RSS feed reader ''(was: Applications/RSS feed reader)'' | ** RSS feed reader ''(was: Applications/RSS feed reader)'' | ||
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*** Control panel ''(was: System management/Control panel)'' | *** Control panel ''(was: System management/Control panel)'' | ||
*** Startup wizard ''(was: System management/Startup Wizard)'' | *** Startup wizard ''(was: System management/Startup Wizard)'' | ||
- | *** Software updater | + | *** Software updater ''(NEW, see e.g. bugs 3750, 3764)'' |
+ | *** Teach handwriting ''(was: System management/Teach handwriting)'' | ||
** Utilities | ** Utilities | ||
*** File manager ''(was: System management/File manager)'' | *** File manager ''(was: System management/File manager)'' | ||
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*** Clock | *** Clock | ||
*** Help | *** Help | ||
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*** Notes | *** Notes | ||
*** PDF reader | *** PDF reader | ||
*** Sketch | *** Sketch | ||
- | *** Search | + | *** Search |
*** X Terminal ''(was: System software/X Terminal)'' | *** X Terminal ''(was: System software/X Terminal)'' | ||
+ | ** X-Discontinued | ||
+ | *** Audio player (770) ''(was: Multimedia/Audio player)'' | ||
+ | *** FM Radio (N800) ''(was: Multimedia/FM Radio)'' | ||
+ | *** "Misdirected" product bugs | ||
+ | *** osso-email ''(was: Communication/osso-email)'' | ||
+ | *** python ''(was: System software/python)'' | ||
+ | *** Video player (770) ''(was: Multimedia/Video player)'' | ||
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* Official Platform (respond to an architectural structure) | * Official Platform (respond to an architectural structure) | ||
** Desktop platform | ** Desktop platform | ||
- | *** | + | *** Device lock ''(was: Desktop/Device lock)'' '''???''', '''TODO''': KILL? current bugs are partially in fact hildon widget bugs) |
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*** File System UI ''(was: System software/File System UI)'' | *** File System UI ''(was: System software/File System UI)'' | ||
*** Finger keyboard ''(was: System software/Finger keyboard)'' | *** Finger keyboard ''(was: System software/Finger keyboard)'' | ||
*** Fonts ''(was: System software/Fonts)'' | *** Fonts ''(was: System software/Fonts)'' | ||
*** gconf ''(was: System software/gconf)'' | *** gconf ''(was: System software/gconf)'' | ||
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*** glib ''(was: System software/glib)'' | *** glib ''(was: System software/glib)'' | ||
*** gnome-vfs ''(was: System software/gnome-vfs)'' | *** gnome-vfs ''(was: System software/gnome-vfs)'' | ||
*** gtk ''(was: System software/gtk)'' | *** gtk ''(was: System software/gtk)'' | ||
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*** hildon-libs ''(was: System software/hildon-libs)'' | *** hildon-libs ''(was: System software/hildon-libs)'' | ||
+ | *** hildon-theme ''(was: System software/hildon-theme)'' | ||
*** hildon-thumbnail ''(was: System software/hildon-thumbnail)'' | *** hildon-thumbnail ''(was: System software/hildon-thumbnail)'' | ||
- | *** Home ''(was: Desktop/Home)'' | + | *** Home ''(was: Desktop/Home)'' '''TODO''': KILL and move to hildon-*? |
*** Icons ''(was: Desktop/Icons)'' | *** Icons ''(was: Desktop/Icons)'' | ||
*** Input method framework ''(was: System software/Input method framework)'' | *** Input method framework ''(was: System software/Input method framework)'' | ||
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*** libosso ''(was: System software/libosso)'' | *** libosso ''(was: System software/libosso)'' | ||
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*** sapwood ''(was: System software/sapwood)'' | *** sapwood ''(was: System software/sapwood)'' | ||
*** startup-shutdown ''(was: System software/startup-shutdown)'' | *** startup-shutdown ''(was: System software/startup-shutdown)'' | ||
*** Task navigator ''(was: Desktop/Task navigator)'' | *** Task navigator ''(was: Desktop/Task navigator)'' | ||
- | *** Themes ''(was: Desktop/Themes | + | *** Themes ''(was: Desktop/Themes)'' '''???''' |
+ | *** User interaction ''(was: Desktop/User interaction)'' '''TODO''': Must die! | ||
*** Virtual keyboard ''(was: System software/Virtual keyboard)'' | *** Virtual keyboard ''(was: System software/Virtual keyboard)'' | ||
*** window-manager ''(was: System software/window-manager)'' | *** window-manager ''(was: System software/window-manager)'' | ||
** Connectivity | ** Connectivity | ||
*** Bluetooth | *** Bluetooth | ||
- | *** DUN | + | *** DUN ('''???''' - I miss understanding...) |
- | *** ICD | + | *** ICD ('''???''' - I miss understanding...) |
*** Networking | *** Networking | ||
*** Operator Setup Wizard ''(was: System management/Operator Setup Wizard)'' | *** Operator Setup Wizard ''(was: System management/Operator Setup Wizard)'' | ||
*** WiFi | *** WiFi | ||
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** Core | ** Core | ||
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*** Kernel ''(was: System software/Kernel)'' | *** Kernel ''(was: System software/Kernel)'' | ||
*** X Server ''(was: System software/X Server)'' | *** X Server ''(was: System software/X Server)'' | ||
** Data | ** Data | ||
*** Meta Tracker | *** Meta Tracker | ||
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*** SQLite | *** SQLite | ||
** Development platform | ** Development platform | ||
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** Flasher | ** Flasher | ||
** Location ''(was: Connectivity/Location Framework)'' | ** Location ''(was: Connectivity/Location Framework)'' | ||
- | ** Multimedia | + | ** Multimedia ('''TODO''': split into more subcomponents - e.g. Gstreamer, Real, DSP?) |
- | + | *** Media streamer | |
- | + | *** Multimedia framework | |
- | *** Media streamer | + | |
- | *** Multimedia framework | + | |
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** Real Time Communication | ** Real Time Communication | ||
*** Telepathy | *** Telepathy | ||
** System software | ** System software | ||
*** application-killer | *** application-killer | ||
- | *** | + | *** Busybox |
- | *** | + | *** dbus |
- | *** dsme (''was: System Software/dsme AND System Software/Watchdog'', '''TODO''': merge | + | *** dsme (''was: System Software/dsme AND System Software/Watchdog'', '''TODO''': merge) |
*** File system | *** File system | ||
*** general | *** general | ||
*** glibc | *** glibc | ||
- | *** | + | *** iconv |
*** libxml | *** libxml | ||
*** maemo-launcher | *** maemo-launcher | ||
*** mmc-and-usb | *** mmc-and-usb | ||
*** OHM | *** OHM | ||
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** Translations | ** Translations | ||
** UI Specification | ** UI Specification | ||
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*** Help content | *** Help content | ||
*** User guide | *** User guide | ||
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- | [[User: | + | * Nokia |
+ | ** Internet Tablet Video Converter | ||
+ | ** Webmail Notifier ''(was: Applications/Webmail Notifier, 8 bugs)'' | ||
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+ | [[User:Andre]]: Getting rid of the "Applications" product is very good. It was often confused with Desktop (e.g. mixing up Applets and Apps with the same name). But having Desktop now in Platform might also be confusing if you're used to the old structure so I changed this to "Desktop Platform". | ||
What I have already done: I've moved Developer Docu from Website to Dev Platform (because it's out of community scope, see bug 3562). | What I have already done: I've moved Developer Docu from Website to Dev Platform (because it's out of community scope, see bug 3562). | ||
Removed ancient Games/Startscreen subcomponent (only 2 bugs), Removed Desktop/PC connection (1 wrong bug), Desktop/Tableteer Info (0 bugs), Desktop/Desktop Info applet (0 bugs). Removed Communication/Accounts (3 bugs, 2 wrong). Removed System software/libcommon-error (0 bugs). | Removed ancient Games/Startscreen subcomponent (only 2 bugs), Removed Desktop/PC connection (1 wrong bug), Desktop/Tableteer Info (0 bugs), Desktop/Desktop Info applet (0 bugs). Removed Communication/Accounts (3 bugs, 2 wrong). Removed System software/libcommon-error (0 bugs). | ||
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