Talk:Task:2010 Agenda

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'''End-user software wishlist''' is really out of scope here, for the reasons explained in the 100 Days discussion page. Even asking for specific developer toos that are not web server based are not very in the scope of this maemo.org exercise.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 13:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
'''End-user software wishlist''' is really out of scope here, for the reasons explained in the 100 Days discussion page. Even asking for specific developer toos that are not web server based are not very in the scope of this maemo.org exercise.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 13:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:So what '''is''' the scope for this long-term vision? How the community would like the *.maemo.org websites to be? What about the process that maemo the OS has been devloped (largely be Nokia)? A bit more explanation on '''your''' hopes on what this will achieve would be a useful steer, I think. --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 21:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:So what '''is''' the scope for this long-term vision? How the community would like the *.maemo.org websites to be? What about the process that maemo the OS has been devloped (largely be Nokia)? A bit more explanation on '''your''' hopes on what this will achieve would be a useful steer, I think. --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 21:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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::Alright, what about this. maemo.org becomes "the best-in-class community for innovation on mobile devices running Linux". The maemo.org project is '''really''' community driven and in fact freedom to innovate is an essential part of its success. Nokia sponsors the project and helps in the parts where is needed, but doesn't stay in the way. What is on-topic in this brainstorm: the '''community''' objectives, dynamics, services, tools, etc, available in maemo.org - and what Nokia should do to leverage, empower, support them. To support you.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 18:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
== IDE ==
== IDE ==

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Out of scope

End-user software wishlist is really out of scope here, for the reasons explained in the 100 Days discussion page. Even asking for specific developer toos that are not web server based are not very in the scope of this maemo.org exercise.--qgil 13:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

So what is the scope for this long-term vision? How the community would like the *.maemo.org websites to be? What about the process that maemo the OS has been devloped (largely be Nokia)? A bit more explanation on your hopes on what this will achieve would be a useful steer, I think. --jaffa 21:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Alright, what about this. maemo.org becomes "the best-in-class community for innovation on mobile devices running Linux". The maemo.org project is really community driven and in fact freedom to innovate is an essential part of its success. Nokia sponsors the project and helps in the parts where is needed, but doesn't stay in the way. What is on-topic in this brainstorm: the community objectives, dynamics, services, tools, etc, available in maemo.org - and what Nokia should do to leverage, empower, support them. To support you.--qgil 18:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

IDE

I'm maybe asking for too much but an IDE with

  • syntax highlighting and code completion for the major used languages (C, C++, Python, maybe Vala, along with their Hildon/Osso integration)
  • scratchbox building
  • directly build deb from IDE and post it to extras/devel
  • run testing on device through SSH

will greatly help developers. bundyo 20:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Something like Eclipse and/or PluThon? generalantilles 21:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm aware of all the Eclipse integrations, however i was talking more in the lines of a smaller/native IDE like Geany/mEdit. bundyo 21:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Vala on Monodevelop with a standalone emulator (i.e. could we avoid scratchbox?) would be a dream. --boxofsnoo 15:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Office

IMHO; I think that the idea of an office suite Is not something that belongs on an IT better support for google docs or something of that nature would be a better idea, you don't have to worry about different versions or storage space on the device... Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.115.113 23:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Please consider offline use! I don't think gDocs uses the screen space very well, and it's too slow for quick edits. The ITs need to walk the line between feature bloat and speed/accessibility. —Preceding unsigned comment added by boxofsnoo 11:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Becoming the best-in-class community for innovation on mobile devices running Linux

What does it take to become the de-facto community to innovate open source for Linux-based devices? Obviously, we are not alone when it comes to development on Linux on mobile devices. Development communities for Android platform and LIMO platform are likely to grow in the next 2 years. So, how do we ensure that we keep on getting the greatest brains to our community? Only through continuous growth and fresh community members from around the globe we can ensure that we get new ideas and new challenges from which we all can learn. Only through continuous learning we can create better software and better user experiences.

So again, what does it take to be a major force in open source for Linux-based mobile devices?

  • a vision, a strategy, and mid-term objectives for the community
  • clear and transparent rules of engagement and recognition of contributions in the community
  • a virtual meeting place i.e. maemo.org but also community events for people to meet in person
  • a powerful core operating system incorporating the latest versions of open source upstream projects
  • best-in-class open devices for rapid prototyping on latest hardware
  • easy to use tools to create, prototype, and rewrite applications on top of the SDKs
  • tools for contributors to software "below" the SDK to prototype and publish enhancements
  • strong ties with the other open source community projects
  • deep understanding of consumer behavior, preferences, and consumer trends in different cultures
  • a mechanism on how to deliver software from open source innovation to millions of consumers

But at the end of the day, it's all about people, relationships and networks. The community needs to be able to maintain and extend the network between the people in an efficient, fair, and transparent way.

Only when we have in our maemo.org agenda 2010 answers on how maemo.org can contribute to these above mentioned requirements, then we can succeed to bring open source innovation to millions of people across the globe and change their lives.--peterschneider 10:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Why was this moved to the discussion page? --qgil 21:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
At the moment, I'm trying to pull all the suggestions into a more clean and unified format to avoid too much redundancy and make the suggestions much easier to read, so it's just temporary. Kinda got sidetracked after doing it for the 100 Days page. ;) —generalantilles 21:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Looking at it now, unified organization is probably less relevant for the long-term agenda than the short-term one. Putting back in full. —generalantilles 22:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)