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This wiki page serves as a discussion page where we will try to find a better way to categorize packages in the repositories.
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This proposal is coordinated by [[User:Xfade|Niels Breet]].
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This wiki page serves as a discussion page for improving the categorization system used for Maemo packages. Improvements here will be pushed to the [http://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf Maemo Packaging Policy] through [[Task:Packaging policy proposed changes]].
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= Proposal =
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This is a '''DRAFT UNDER DISCUSSION'''. You can help reaching conclusions. Please add your comments to the [[Talk:Package_Categories|discussion]] page.
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This proposal is part of the [[Extras_repository_process_definition|Extras repository process definition]].
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This proposal is coordinated by [[User:Xfade|Niels Breet]] and is part of the [[Extras_repository_process_definition|Extras repository process definition]].
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= Maemo Packaging Policy =
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The [http://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf Maemo Packaging Policy] lists the following sections:
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== Problem ==
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People feel the need to create new categories, because the current list is too limited.
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Another problem is that some categories aren't very descriptive. What applications go in to tools, support or accessories?
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== Maemo Packaging Policy ==
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The current [http://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf Maemo Packaging Policy] lists the following sections:
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* accessories
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== New list for Diablo ==
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One of the benefits of using official categories from this list, is that they will appear correctly localized in the Application Manager.
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This is the [http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2008-October/035437.html final] list for  Diablo:
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= Problem =
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People feel the need to create new categories, because the current list is too limited.
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! Key
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! Example English i18n
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! Example apps
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| user/desktop
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| Desktop
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| user/development
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| Programming
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| py2deb
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| user/education
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| Flashcard apps
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| user/games
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| Games
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| user/graphics
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| Graphics
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| Photo apps, GIMP, Inkscape, fonts
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| user/multimedia
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| Multimedia ''or'' Sound & Video
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| Canola, mplayer, Kagu, UKMP, MediaBox
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| user/navigation
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| user/network
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| Internet & Networking
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| user/system
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| System
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If the package's section starts "user/", but is not any of the above, the ''Application Manager'' forces them into an "Other" section.
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* There is beauty in simplicity. Adding more categories would never solve the problem for some people. --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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== Future additions ==
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Another problem is that some categories aren't very descriptive. What applications go in to tools, support or accessories?
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The current proposed list is only for Diablo, future additions and changes will be considered for Fremantle.
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* This may be the better method, although "descriptive" is still subjective. --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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It seems H-A-M supports (will support?) the section "user/hidden" in the future ([http://maemo.gitorious.org/hildon-application-manager/mainline/commit/deeb9558129e22f9d1ca49ef9b6565a173603fcd commit log]). This section will not be shown in the "Download" view, but will be shown in the "Update" and "Uninstall" views.
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= Proposed solutions =
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== Additional categories ==
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=== Debtags ===
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We could add more categories to the official list. To do this we need to define a list of categories that need to be added. If we have a list of categories, we need to discuss whether they are really beneficial.
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Debian Package Tags: Faceted Classification
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Please add your proposed category, description and motivation here:
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As stated on the [http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faceted.html debtags website]:
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* desktop: A category for desktop plugins. --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 15:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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** Could be a good idea, but what makes this different from "Accessories"? --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:35, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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*** Accessories -> what would one expect there. I personally think that Accessories is just as bad as Other ;) --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 08:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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**** Well, I think the ambiguity comes from developers not using the categories properly, not necessarily from the category names not being descriptiove enough (e.g., currently, we can't even expect the "music" category to have every music-oriented application included anyway). In this case, enforcing the proper use of categorization is more important than the actual category names. --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 13:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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{{quotation|Drawing a bit freely from the literature of Faceted Classification, a facet is a group of tags which describe the same quality of a package. Package Tags are organized in Facets, that represent different points of view from which to look at the package archive. For example, you could have a "Usage" facet with tags about what a program is intended to be used for, or you could have a "Media" facet with tags about what kind of information a program is able to process, a "Technology" facet about the technology a package uses, and so on. With this approach, every tag is situated in a specific context, and has a clear meaning. Also, tags from different facets shed light on packages from different points of view, giving "depth" to its categorization. Take something tagged with "Use::Chatting", "Technology::IRC", "Role::Server": it has a remarkable level of detail, and tells almost everything we need to know about what the package does.
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* Is there a possibility of subcategories? Or, do they all need to be top-level? --[[User:timsamoff|timsamoff]] 18:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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** To keep with Debian sections, it can only be top-level. (IIRC) --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 08:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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*** Eh? We're already not "keeping with Debian sections" by insisting on a "user/" prefix for applications to be exposed to the user. Why is changing that to support "user/multimedia/Canola/themes" (for example) any worse? Or does the Debian policy already allow for the "user/" prefix? --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 13:12, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
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=== Application-specific subcategories ===
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* fonts --[[User:matan|matan]]
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Within each of the top-level categories, projects may want to group a number of packages together. For this, sub-sections can be used. For example, Canola may have:
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* languages: for packages that add support for other languages. --[[User:matan|matan]]
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Debian Package Tags: Faceted Classification
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The rule is simple:
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As stated on the [http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faceted.html debtags website]:
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# If the portion of the section path starts with a capital letter, it is shown as-is
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# Otherwise the portion of the section path must be one of the above sections or, additionally:
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#* themes
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#* plugins
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#* translations
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== Translations ==
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''Drawing a bit freely from the literature of Faceted Classification, a facet is a group of tags which describe the same quality of a package. Package Tags are organized in Facets, that represent different points of view from which to look at the package archive. For example, you could have a "Usage" facet with tags about what a program is intended to be used for, or you could have a "Media" facet with tags about what kind of information a program is able to process, a "Technology" facet about the technology a package uses, and so on. With this approach, every tag is situated in a specific context, and has a clear meaning. Also, tags from different facets shed light on packages from different points of view, giving "depth" to its categorization. Take something tagged with "Use::Chatting", "Technology::IRC", "Role::Server": it has a remarkable level of detail, and tells almost everything we need to know about what the package does.''
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I'm not sure if this will help us here. We would need to specify a lot of tags for packages. Question is: how are we going to display this in the application manager or website without being confusing --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 12:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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! Key
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| user/desktop
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| Desktop
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| Desktop
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| Escritorio
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| Bureaublad
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| Área de Trabalho
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| Desktop
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| Bureau
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| Bureau
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| Escritorio
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| Desktop
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| user/development
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| Programming
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| Programming
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| Programación
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| Ontwikkeling
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| Programming
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| Ohjelmointi
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| Programmazione
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| Programmation
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| Programmering
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| Desenvolvimento
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| Programmering
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| Programmation
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| Programación
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| Education
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| Educación
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| Educatief
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| Educação
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| Undervisning
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| Educazione
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| Éducation
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| Undervisning
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| Educação
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| Éducation
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| Educación
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| Bildung
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| user/games
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| Games
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| Games
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| Juegos
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| Jogos
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| Spill
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| Pelit
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| Jeux
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| Spil
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| Jogos
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| Spel
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| Jeux
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| Juegos
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| user/graphics
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| Graphics
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| Graphics
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| Gráficos
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| Grafisch
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| Grafikk
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| Grafica
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| Graphismes
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| Grafik
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| Grafik
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| Multimedia
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| Multimedia
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| Multimedia
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| Multimedia
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| Multimídia
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| Multimedia
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| Multimedia
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| Multimedia
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=== freedesktop.org ===
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The basic, rationalised, set of high-level sections according to the [http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html freedesktop.org menu specification] are: ''Accessories, Development, Education, Game, Graphics, Multimedia, Network, Office, Settings, System''.
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=== Debian ===
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== Debian ==
The Debian archive maintainers [http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections provide] the authoritative list of sections. At present, they are: ''admin, comm, devel, doc, editors, electronics, embedded, games, gnome, graphics, hamradio, interpreters, kde, libs, libdevel, mail, math, misc, net, news, oldlibs, otherosfs, perl, python, science, shells, sound, tex, text, utils, web, x11.''
The Debian archive maintainers [http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections provide] the authoritative list of sections. At present, they are: ''admin, comm, devel, doc, editors, electronics, embedded, games, gnome, graphics, hamradio, interpreters, kde, libs, libdevel, mail, math, misc, net, news, oldlibs, otherosfs, perl, python, science, shells, sound, tex, text, utils, web, x11.''
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* [http://communitizer.blogspot.com/2008/04/rfc-maemo-package-guidelines-mandatory.html Communitizer blog]
* [http://communitizer.blogspot.com/2008/04/rfc-maemo-package-guidelines-mandatory.html Communitizer blog]
* [http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-April/033093.html Mandatory categories discussion]
* [http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-April/033093.html Mandatory categories discussion]
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== Bugs ==
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