Editing What can we realistically expect

This wiki page was created following a lot of hot-topic questions being asked without answer which resulted in a general bad mood on Talk. It was suggested by Qgil in this [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=550967&postcount=1 post].

=== Be realistic ! ===

Some examples by Quim Gil :  

=== Reference ===

=== Disclamer ===

=== Will Nokia support the front-facing camera on the N900 ? ===

Editor note: Video calling, using the front-facing camera, was introduced in [[Maemo 5/PR1.2#New_Features|PR1.2]]

=== What is the point of buying the N900 now that we know something else "better" is coming ? ===

=== The MeeGo project has announced support for the N900.  What does it really mean for my N900 ? ===

Still, N900 users concerned about "the future of the N900" now know that their hardware is in the real track for future support. More answers to come as the Harmattan [[:wikipedia:Alpha_release|alpha release]] approaches.

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=555026&postcount=9 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

=== Will Harmattan/Meego be supported on the N900 for the average consumer and not just for for developers ? ===

* From unstable to stable, if MeeGo doesn't make developers happy it will never make users happy. Developer happiness is a required milestone no matter what.

* Leaving aside the Nokia-centric perspective, if MeeGo doesn't make users happy by own merits it will give a hard time to device vendors making happy their customers. So again user happiness is basically a milestone for MeeGo no matter what.

=== How many application running on MeeGo 1 will be able to run on Maemo 5 ? ===

=== Is there any designed obsolescence for the N900 ? ===

=== Nokia only sell hardware why would they considering device backward compatibility. ===

It is true that 'Nokia sells hardware' but this is just part of the story. Nokia develops a consumer offering based on devices, software and services. Hardware is very important in this strategy and so are the software platforms, the application developer ecosystem and the Ovi services. As opposed to a specific device, software and services can be continuous and evolutionary. They can support very well the very important job of customer retention.

=== Why can't we get all the drivers for the N900 ? ===

=== Why can't Nokia promise the N900 will get MeeGo ? ===

|2=[http://flors.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/running-meego-1-1-unstable-in-your-n900/ Quim Gil (Nokia)]

=== The N900 has a OMAP3 and it has been said that the next device will be using the same.  What technical reasons are there that would make the availability of MeeGo 1 on N900 an unreasonable expectation? ===

=== How is Nokia marketing the N900 ?  Is it a phone ? ===

=== A blogger on cnet asia claimed Nokia says no MeeGo for N900. True? ===

[http://asia.cnet.com/crave/2010/03/15/nokia-n900-not-upgradeable-to-meego/ The blogger misunderstood] an alleged Nokia source quote, which was "Maemo on Nokia N900 is not upgradeable to MeeGo", to mean that the N900 will not get MeeGo. What it actually means is that there is no direct OS upgrade path (ie, SSU). As Valtteri Halla stated, the N900 will get a developer build of MeeGo (and it will have to be installed fresh). There has been no official word yet on whether a commercial version will or will not be released.

|2=[http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one Valtteri Halla (Nokia)]

== Questions & Answers about Maemo 5 ==

=== Will Nokia official support MMS in Maemo 5 ? ===

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=486420&postcount=367 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

Editor note: Community member Frals has developed an application ([[fMMS]]) for sending and receiving MMS.

We have contacted frals to congratulate him for his work, and to offer him concrete help in areas where help is missing. Nothing new, we have been doing this with other [[Fremantle Stars]] (I guess nobody doubts that frals is a Star).

We will help him with the [[:wikipedia:User_interface|UI]] in the lines of the [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=393329 UX Meets Code] hackfest, and we will also help dealing with some Maemo interfaces fMMS needs (the release of the wappushd-dev package in the last Maemo SDK update was a first step).

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=486420&postcount=367 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

|3=[Announce] fMMS for N900

|4=talk.maemo.org post}}

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=7735,10206 2]

<u>July 26, 2010</u>

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4520,5589,9389 3]

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=8830 1]

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=9127,10828 2]

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=10423,10900 2]

 

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6694,9534,9640,10403,10470,10850 6]

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=5522,6807,6898,8394,9214,10283,10357,10390,10435,10792 10]

 

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=7017,7256,10497,10762 4]

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=7184,9334,10290,10424,10442,10495 6]

 

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official platform : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=4339,4583,4589,5637,6183,6302,6739,6931,7733,9209,9527,9562,10734 13]

 

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=5766,6052,6835,7190,8747,10345,10404,10410,10613,10708 10]

 

 

 

 

 

 

<u>June 7, 2010</u>

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=5218,6696,8066,9361,9680,10216,10443 7]

* Number of bugs fixed for Maemo official applications : [https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6016,6859,7052,8828,8829,9922,10137 7]

<u>May 10, 2010</u> - Corresponding, approximately, to Version 10.2010.19-1.002(PR 1.2)

<u>February 22, 2010</u>  

=== Can Nokia really works on two different OS (Maemo 5 and MeeGo) at the same time ? ===

Editor note : Also, keep in mind that Nokia is also working on Symbian at the same time.

=== Why is Ovi Suite still not working with Maemo 5 ? ===

Editor note: Ovi Suite support was integrated in [[Maemo 5/PR1.3#New features|PR1.3]]

Editor note: the Maemo community has added [[Java|Java support]] via icedtea and micro emulator.

=== Why free Ovi Maps for Symbian has been annouced and there is still nothing for Maemo 5 ? ===

=== Are there still applications being developed at Nokia for Maemo 5 ? ===

=== Is there a roadmap for Maemo 5 ===

=== Maemo 5 is still new.  Why was MeeGo announced so quickly after Maemo 5 release ? ===

=== What are the officially-confirmed major feature in future Maemo 5 release ? ===

# Live wallpaper. Source: [https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3910#c5 Bug 3910]

# Customizable single menu, no more "More". Source: [https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5349 Bug 5349]

# QT Mobility. Source: [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=561617&postcount=4 Urho Konttori (Nokia)]

Editor note: PR1.2 and PR1.3 were released in May and October 2010, respectively.

=== What devices will be supported by MeeGo ? ===

=== What steps is Nokia taking for open source drivers on MeeGo ? ===

=== Is the UX Componant of MeeGo device-specific ? ===

=== How many application written for Maemo 5 will be able to run in MeeGo 1 ? ===

=== Will my favorite Maemo 5 GTK+ application run on MeeGo 1 ? ===

=== A network provider in my country has announced support for MeeGo. Is it a good thing ? ===

=== Network provider adapts OS to their needs.  Should I be worried that my network provider cripple MeeGo ? ===

Editor note: this discussion was about Orange

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=555057&postcount=30 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

|3=Orange is getting into MeeGo!

|4=talk.maemo.org post}}

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* For end users nothing really changes, apart from a name most of them were not aware of anyway.

* For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and by the way same for Symbian. Harmattan might have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi [[:wikipedia:API|APIs]]), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDKs]] to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.

* For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for application developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".

# There is Nokia Maemo 5 / Fremantle now. The next release would have been Nokia Maemo 6 / Harmattan. Now, it is called Meego / Harmattan instead, but it's still the same Harmattan that it was going to be. This would be way clearer if they didn't rebrand it as MeeGo yet, but they wanted to get the marketing behind that brand already. You can think of Harmattan as half MeeGo. The next release after Harmattan will be Nokia's first full MeeGo.

# You need to understand the layers, which together form an operating system. It may be difficult if you come from Windows/OS X world because they both only have one user interface. UI and applications, however are only the top of the OS pyramid. Underneath them there are a lot of stuff that actually make it all tick. That's what Meego is about, providing a common base for user interfaces and applications to be built on. When you think of Meego in general, think of everything you as an end user don't see.

# What you actually see, the UI, applications, services etc. can and will vary depending on who made the Meego device. LG's UI may look totally different from Nokia UI. You'll only see Ovi applications and services on Nokia devices. These manufacturer specific applications on top of Meego won't necessarily be open source either. But the base on which they are built on is the same.

|2='''(UNOFFICIAL)''' [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=555158&postcount=33 jsa]

=== Harmattan is still using deb, will it mean it is less compatible with other MeeGo instances ? ===

=== When will you release any news on Harmattan ? ===

Harmattan/MeeGo are in pre-alpha state, we haven't even put together an early [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDK]] for the most adventurous developers, we haven't given any hardware details about the next device...

I cannot tell you when do we ship the next device. I cannot tell you how much it costs. I cannot tell the exact features because we are still working on them. I cannot tell you what is the delta between Maemo5 and (Harmattan)/MeeGo 1.0 because it is not fully clear yet. And we tell you about the new products when we are ready to tell. Business decisions. I cannot tell you how much of the (Harmattan) characteristics will run on old devices when the new devices finally ship. But go and follow Harmattan plans at maemo.org. See also the new [[:wikipedia:User_interface|UI]] framework forming up.

|2=[https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=16130344&postID=78857428363981643&pli=1 Ari Jaaksi (Nokia)]

=== Is Harmattan a transitional release toward pure MeeGo ? ===

|2=[http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/2010/03/nokia-spotlight-interview-with-peter.html Peter Schneider (Nokia)]

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There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in ([http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53551 this thread]). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.  

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=677722&postcount=70 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

=== What will happen to the council ? ===

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=556430&postcount=215 Quim Gil (Nokia)]

=== What will happen to those who work on the Maemo infrastructure and code base - there already exists a MeeGo code base and infrastructure ? ===

=== What will happen to Maemo Summit ? ===

|2=[http://mobiletablets.blogspot.com/2010/03/nokia-spotlight-interview-with-peter.html Peter Schneider (Nokia)]

|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=556439&postcount=217 Quim Gil (Nokia)]