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=== Can we expect hardware accelerated flash 10 in Maemo 5 ? ===
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# QT Mobility. Source: [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=561617&postcount=4 Urho Konttori (Nokia)]
# QT Mobility. Source: [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=561617&postcount=4 Urho Konttori (Nokia)]
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=== Who is responsible for MeeGo ? ===
=== Who is responsible for MeeGo ? ===
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The MeeGo project is the responsible of the MeeGo releases and hardware *they* support for *their* releases.  The current supporters of MeeGo are Intel, Nokia and the Linux Foundation.
The MeeGo project is the responsible of the MeeGo releases and hardware *they* support for *their* releases.  The current supporters of MeeGo are Intel, Nokia and the Linux Foundation.
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Get this thing straight: this is http://meego.com - a free software project hosted by the Linux Foundation. Yes, Nokia has a big involvement there. No, it is not a Nokia project.
Get this thing straight: this is http://meego.com - a free software project hosted by the Linux Foundation. Yes, Nokia has a big involvement there. No, it is not a Nokia project.
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=== What devices will be supported by MeeGo ? ===
=== What devices will be supported by MeeGo ? ===
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The current supporters of MeeGo are Intel, Nokia and the Linux Foundation. The (Linux Fondation) has no own hardware so has nothing to support. Intel has chipsets and development boards (there is no Netbook from Intel, they are from vendors using Intel chipsets) and Nokia has devices (no ARM development board from Nokia). Hence the logical conclusion of [http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one announcing support for Atom boards and the N900] at this point. This will change if other vendors appear offering official support for the hardware they are responsible of.
The current supporters of MeeGo are Intel, Nokia and the Linux Foundation. The (Linux Fondation) has no own hardware so has nothing to support. Intel has chipsets and development boards (there is no Netbook from Intel, they are from vendors using Intel chipsets) and Nokia has devices (no ARM development board from Nokia). Hence the logical conclusion of [http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/towards-day-one announcing support for Atom boards and the N900] at this point. This will change if other vendors appear offering official support for the hardware they are responsible of.
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=== What steps is Nokia taking for open source drivers on MeeGo ? ===
=== What steps is Nokia taking for open source drivers on MeeGo ? ===
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Basically, Nokia puts considerable effort pushing hardware vendors in that direction. Open source drivers play well with the Nokia chipset strategy and with Linux development. But of course these companies need to make business, so asking them to open their [[:wikipedia:Intellectual_Property_Rights|IPR]] without suggesting any alternative is not the best approach.
Basically, Nokia puts considerable effort pushing hardware vendors in that direction. Open source drivers play well with the Nokia chipset strategy and with Linux development. But of course these companies need to make business, so asking them to open their [[:wikipedia:Intellectual_Property_Rights|IPR]] without suggesting any alternative is not the best approach.
MeeGo, with Intel as initial founder (a company with good track offering open drivers), is one of the biggest and most concrete public actions Nokia could push in that direction.
MeeGo, with Intel as initial founder (a company with good track offering open drivers), is one of the biggest and most concrete public actions Nokia could push in that direction.
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Closed hardware driver are problematic only when the owners don't provide updated versions for new releases. The MeeGo project is working hard to have those drivers owners on board.
Closed hardware driver are problematic only when the owners don't provide updated versions for new releases. The MeeGo project is working hard to have those drivers owners on board.
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=== Is the UX Componant of MeeGo device-specific ? ===
=== Is the UX Componant of MeeGo device-specific ? ===
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No matter how many [[:wikipedia:User_experience|UX]] changes vendors do, they need to provide the official MeeGo [[:wikipedia:API|API]] if they want to call their product a MeeGo device.
No matter how many [[:wikipedia:User_experience|UX]] changes vendors do, they need to provide the official MeeGo [[:wikipedia:API|API]] if they want to call their product a MeeGo device.
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=== How many application written for Maemo 5 will be able to run in MeeGo 1 ? ===
=== How many application written for Maemo 5 will be able to run in MeeGo 1 ? ===
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... (T)he MeeGo API is based on Qt (and Web Runtime), so Qt apps for Maemo 5 will work there with little effort. The rest depends on how fast MeeGo devices and Harmattan show up in the market.
... (T)he MeeGo API is based on Qt (and Web Runtime), so Qt apps for Maemo 5 will work there with little effort. The rest depends on how fast MeeGo devices and Harmattan show up in the market.
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=== Will my favorite Maemo 5 GTK+ application run on MeeGo 1 ? ===
=== Will my favorite Maemo 5 GTK+ application run on MeeGo 1 ? ===
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[http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2010-February/msg00010.html Up to the GTK+ and Hildon maintainers] in the first place. They are the first ones to decide whether it's worth the effort of aligning the GTK+ approaches of Moblin and Maemo, get the Hildon libraries running on top, try or try not to work on adapted bindings to give to GTK+/Hildon apps a MeeGo native look&feel...
[http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mobile-devel-list/2010-February/msg00010.html Up to the GTK+ and Hildon maintainers] in the first place. They are the first ones to decide whether it's worth the effort of aligning the GTK+ approaches of Moblin and Maemo, get the Hildon libraries running on top, try or try not to work on adapted bindings to give to GTK+/Hildon apps a MeeGo native look&feel...
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fwiw the Maemo team is in talks with the GNOME Foundation to bring more GTK+/Hildon apps to Maemo 5 and to help on the kick-off of the 'GTK+ community support'. We started the talks in the context of Harmattan and we are just continuing in the context of MeeGo. We hope to get something concrete to explain soon.
fwiw the Maemo team is in talks with the GNOME Foundation to bring more GTK+/Hildon apps to Maemo 5 and to help on the kick-off of the 'GTK+ community support'. We started the talks in the context of Harmattan and we are just continuing in the context of MeeGo. We hope to get something concrete to explain soon.
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=== A network provider in my country has announced support for MeeGo. Is it a good thing ? ===
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=== A network provider in my country has announced support for MeeGo. Is it a good thing ? ===
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Expect to see more announcements like this, some from partners you like, some of partners you dislike. Any new announcement adds more developers and users to MeeGo so, really, you should be happy about each one of them.
Expect to see more announcements like this, some from partners you like, some of partners you dislike. Any new announcement adds more developers and users to MeeGo so, really, you should be happy about each one of them.
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=== Network provider adapts OS to their needs.  Should I be worried that my network provider cripple MeeGo ? ===
=== Network provider adapts OS to their needs.  Should I be worried that my network provider cripple MeeGo ? ===
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So it looks like (network provider) will take MeeGo [[:wikipedia:Vanilla_software|vanilla]] and will adapt it to their needs. Great! This is what MeeGo is meant for, btw. If this means that they will put developers to tweak their own [[:wikipedia:User_experience|UX]] variant and create their own (Qt / Web Runtime based?) apps, great! All this will bring useful feedback about the UX layers and the [[:wikipedia:API|API]], for sure. Whatever else they do to adapt MeeGo will be also useful feedback for the platform development.
So it looks like (network provider) will take MeeGo [[:wikipedia:Vanilla_software|vanilla]] and will adapt it to their needs. Great! This is what MeeGo is meant for, btw. If this means that they will put developers to tweak their own [[:wikipedia:User_experience|UX]] variant and create their own (Qt / Web Runtime based?) apps, great! All this will bring useful feedback about the UX layers and the [[:wikipedia:API|API]], for sure. Whatever else they do to adapt MeeGo will be also useful feedback for the platform development.
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If you don't like what (network provider) does with MeeGo then don't get a MeeGo device from (network provider). I really don't understand the point of whining.
If you don't like what (network provider) does with MeeGo then don't get a MeeGo device from (network provider). I really don't understand the point of whining.
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=== Would it be possible for a MeeGo partner to have too much influence on the platform ? ===
=== Would it be possible for a MeeGo partner to have too much influence on the platform ? ===
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"Too much influence over the platform", what would this mean in practice? Please figure this out before worrying, otherwise you don't really know what you are worrying about. Bringing plenty of bugfixes in the form of patches? Contributing new features? Proposing better alternatives for software components that they would maintain?
"Too much influence over the platform", what would this mean in practice? Please figure this out before worrying, otherwise you don't really know what you are worrying about. Bringing plenty of bugfixes in the form of patches? Contributing new features? Proposing better alternatives for software components that they would maintain?
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== Questions & Answers about Harmattan ==
== Questions & Answers about Harmattan ==
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=== I am confused. What is Harmattan and what is MeeGo? What is the difference between both? Do they share common features? ===
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So what’s with (Harmattan)? (Harmattan) will be MeeGo compatible.....consider (Harmattan) already a MeeGo instance.
So what’s with (Harmattan)? (Harmattan) will be MeeGo compatible.....consider (Harmattan) already a MeeGo instance.
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Harmattan is the name of the software program that comes after Fremantle / Maemo 5. In the Maemo Summit we already announced it as "Maemo 6" in order to bring a clear signal about the major update, change of toolkit, etc.
Harmattan is the name of the software program that comes after Fremantle / Maemo 5. In the Maemo Summit we already announced it as "Maemo 6" in order to bring a clear signal about the major update, change of toolkit, etc.
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What does this mean exactly for Harmattan/MeeGo? It means different things for different people:
What does this mean exactly for Harmattan/MeeGo? It means different things for different people:
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* For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and by the way same for Symbian. Harmattan might have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi [[:wikipedia:API|APIs]]), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDKs]] to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.
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* For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for application developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".
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- For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and by the way same for Symbian. Harmattan might have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi [[:wikipedia:API|APIs]]), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the [[:wikipedia:SDK|SDKs]] to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.
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- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for application developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".
This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" brand while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.  
This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" brand while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.  
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Harmattan and MeeGo come with a whole Qt based application and [[:wikipedia:User_interaction|UI]] framework and a Qt style API. Maemo 5 is a different story, with a GTK+ based applications and UI framework and GNOME style API.
Harmattan and MeeGo come with a whole Qt based application and [[:wikipedia:User_interaction|UI]] framework and a Qt style API. Maemo 5 is a different story, with a GTK+ based applications and UI framework and GNOME style API.
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PS: about the packaging... we are talking here about API compatibility.
PS: about the packaging... we are talking here about API compatibility.
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# There is Nokia Maemo 5 / Fremantle now. The next release would have been Nokia Maemo 6 / Harmattan. Now, it is called Meego / Harmattan instead, but it's still the same Harmattan that it was going to be. This would be way clearer if they didn't rebrand it as MeeGo yet, but they wanted to get the marketing behind that brand already. You can think of Harmattan as half MeeGo. The next release after Harmattan will be Nokia's first full MeeGo.
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1. There is Nokia Maemo 5 / Fremantle now. The next release would have been Nokia Maemo 6 / Harmattan. Now, it is called Meego / Harmattan instead, but it's still the same Harmattan that it was going to be. This would be way clearer if they didn't rebrand it as MeeGo yet, but they wanted to get the marketing behind that brand already. You can think of Harmattan as half MeeGo. The next release after Harmattan will be Nokia's first full MeeGo.
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2. You need to understand the layers, which together form an operating system. It may be difficult if you come from Windows/OS X world because they both only have one user interface. UI and applications, however are only the top of the OS pyramid. Underneath them there are a lot of stuff that actually make it all tick. That's what Meego is about, providing a common base for user interfaces and applications to be built on. When you think of Meego in general, think of everything you as an end user don't see.
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3. What you actually see, the UI, applications, services etc. can and will vary depending on who made the Meego device. LG's UI may look totally different from Nokia UI. You'll only see Ovi applications and services on Nokia devices. These manufacturer specific applications on top of Meego won't necessarily be open source either. But the base on which they are built on is the same.
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(Harmattan) will be compatible with MeeGo.. but it is not  MeeGo.
(Harmattan) will be compatible with MeeGo.. but it is not  MeeGo.
(Harmattan) will still use Deb.. MeeGo uses RPM.  
(Harmattan) will still use Deb.. MeeGo uses RPM.  
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Source '''(NON OFFICIAL)''' : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=541972&postcount=249 fatalsaint]
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=== Harmattan is still using deb, will it mean it is less compatible with other MeeGo instances ? ===
=== Harmattan is still using deb, will it mean it is less compatible with other MeeGo instances ? ===
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I bet the MeeGo build infrastructure ([[:wikipedia:OpenSUSE_Build_Service|OBS]]) will minimize the rpm/deb hassle for developers. I expect the average user not to even bother about this.
I bet the MeeGo build infrastructure ([[:wikipedia:OpenSUSE_Build_Service|OBS]]) will minimize the rpm/deb hassle for developers. I expect the average user not to even bother about this.
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=== When will you release any news on Harmattan ? ===
=== When will you release any news on Harmattan ? ===
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... I said in the oldest 'Harmattan in the N900' thread that there were new things in the pipeline and that before a Harmattan alpha release (promised for 1Q2010, working on it) it was really premature to discuss or announce anything.
... I said in the oldest 'Harmattan in the N900' thread that there were new things in the pipeline and that before a Harmattan alpha release (promised for 1Q2010, working on it) it was really premature to discuss or announce anything.
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Harmattan/MeeGo are in pre-alpha state, we haven't even put together an early [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDK SDK] for the most adventurous developers, we haven't given any hardware details about the next device...
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I cannot tell you when do we ship the next device. I cannot tell you how much it costs. I cannot tell the exact features because we are still working on them. I cannot tell you what is the delta between Maemo5 and (Harmattan)/MeeGo 1.0 because it is not fully clear yet. And we tell you about the new products when we are ready to tell. Business decisions. I cannot tell you how much of the (Harmattan) characteristics will run on old devices when the new devices finally ship. But go and follow Harmattan plans at maemo.org. See also the new [[:wikipedia:User_interface|UI]] framework forming up.
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I cannot tell you when do we ship the next device. I cannot tell you how much it costs. I cannot tell the exact features because we are still working on them. I cannot tell you what is the delta between Maemo5 and (Harmattan)/MeeGo 1.0 because it is not fully clear yet. And we tell you about the new products when we are ready to tell. Business decisions. I cannot tell you how much of the (Harmattan) characteristics will run on old devices when the new devices finally ship. But go and follow Harmattan plans at maemo.org. See also the new [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface UI] framework forming up.
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=== Is Harmattan a transitional release toward pure MeeGo ? ===
=== Is Harmattan a transitional release toward pure MeeGo ? ===
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Harmattan will be the base for Nokia’s MeeGo-based devices in 2010. From an app developer’s point of view, it will be fully compatible with other MeeGo-based devices. There might be differences under the hood concerning some middleware components and, therefore, it has been referred to as transitional release, but that’s only relevant for those few that participate in the low level platform development. Qt Creator with the necessary cross-compilation toolkits will make these differences invisible to the bulk of application developers.
Harmattan will be the base for Nokia’s MeeGo-based devices in 2010. From an app developer’s point of view, it will be fully compatible with other MeeGo-based devices. There might be differences under the hood concerning some middleware components and, therefore, it has been referred to as transitional release, but that’s only relevant for those few that participate in the low level platform development. Qt Creator with the necessary cross-compilation toolkits will make these differences invisible to the bulk of application developers.
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=== Will Nokia release their official Meego UX, applications like Ovi Maps, Mail for Exchange, Nokia Messaging etc to the community-supported Meego for N900? ===
=== Will Nokia release their official Meego UX, applications like Ovi Maps, Mail for Exchange, Nokia Messaging etc to the community-supported Meego for N900? ===
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There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in ([http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53551 this thread]). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.  
There will not be an official MeeGo-Harmattan release for the N900, but there is a possibility that the Nokia official UX and apps for MeeGo-Harmattan are made available to N900 users through a community effort discussed in ([http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53551 this thread]). At this point nobody knows what and will not work. Technical discussion, R&D experimentation and official MeeGo-Harmattan releases need to come first in order to tell.  
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=== What will happen to maemo.org now that MeeGo has been announced ? ===
=== What will happen to maemo.org now that MeeGo has been announced ? ===
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The destiny of Maemo.org depends on the Maemo community (yes, you). In the meantime we keep funding the hosting and nobody is thinking of unpluggin servers or taking radical measures to stop anything here.
The destiny of Maemo.org depends on the Maemo community (yes, you). In the meantime we keep funding the hosting and nobody is thinking of unpluggin servers or taking radical measures to stop anything here.
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=556430&postcount=215 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
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Source : [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=556430&postcount=215 Quim Gil] (Nokia)
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=== What will happen to the council ? ===
=== What will happen to the council ? ===
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About the council, ask the current candidates. Nokia has nothing to say about this. The community created the council and the community is the one deciding what to do now and in the MeeGo context. fwiw we supported Jaffa's idea of an elected body representing 'the community' towards Nokia and somehow we think the core concept might make sense at MeeGo as well. Said that, the MeeGo project is fundamentally different since it is aimed to be an open project participated by individuals and organizations. The purpose of a Council for MeeGo needs to re-evaluated.
About the council, ask the current candidates. Nokia has nothing to say about this. The community created the council and the community is the one deciding what to do now and in the MeeGo context. fwiw we supported Jaffa's idea of an elected body representing 'the community' towards Nokia and somehow we think the core concept might make sense at MeeGo as well. Said that, the MeeGo project is fundamentally different since it is aimed to be an open project participated by individuals and organizations. The purpose of a Council for MeeGo needs to re-evaluated.
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The 2010 maemo.org community council has been challenged to identify what role(s) a MeeGo community council might have.  We are working on defining this and welcome input.  Meanwhile, we continue to support this community while helping establish MeeGo.com.
The 2010 maemo.org community council has been challenged to identify what role(s) a MeeGo community council might have.  We are working on defining this and welcome input.  Meanwhile, we continue to support this community while helping establish MeeGo.com.
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=== What will happen to those who work on the Maemo infrastructure and code base - there already exists a MeeGo code base and infrastructure ? ===
=== What will happen to those who work on the Maemo infrastructure and code base - there already exists a MeeGo code base and infrastructure ? ===
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We keep funding the Maemo.org pro development team, reviewing contracts every 6 months as we have been doing since we started 'liberating' these *master roles. Note that the Maemo.org development team decide their priorities and tasks through a public process, so it is also up to them process to decide where to invest their time. Now they are finding their counterparts in the Moblin project and the Linux Foundation, and we all will need to find the place for all of us (Nokians included e.g. Tero and myself). Giving roles implies giving admin rights on tools and servers, all this is based on trust and this takes a bit of time, as sysadmins know.
We keep funding the Maemo.org pro development team, reviewing contracts every 6 months as we have been doing since we started 'liberating' these *master roles. Note that the Maemo.org development team decide their priorities and tasks through a public process, so it is also up to them process to decide where to invest their time. Now they are finding their counterparts in the Moblin project and the Linux Foundation, and we all will need to find the place for all of us (Nokians included e.g. Tero and myself). Giving roles implies giving admin rights on tools and servers, all this is based on trust and this takes a bit of time, as sysadmins know.
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=== What will happen to Maemo Summit ? ===
=== What will happen to Maemo Summit ? ===
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The direct face-to-face time with the community remains an important part of reaching out to the community. I'm rather confident that we will have at least one get-together this year for the community. It's going to be a MeeGo community get-together and everybody is invited.
The direct face-to-face time with the community remains an important part of reaching out to the community. I'm rather confident that we will have at least one get-together this year for the community. It's going to be a MeeGo community get-together and everybody is invited.
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== Questions & Answers about the next Harmattan/MeeGo device from Nokia ==
== Questions & Answers about the next Harmattan/MeeGo device from Nokia ==
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We never ever speculate about devices before they are launched.
We never ever speculate about devices before they are launched.
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|2=[http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=556439&postcount=217 Quim Gil (Nokia)]
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